CatalinaOwners.com has the parts and accessories you need for your Catalina sailboat. I swore one day i was going to own one. We tried one night sleeping fore and aft but it was hard to breathe with the cockpit sole about a foot and a half above my face :-( We have always slept in the V berth since. I'd be hard pressed to spend $30K extra for two feet of boat and a nicer aft cabin. Blair White The Morgan 381 evolved into the Catalina 380, 387, and 390. The old S&S C38 is an entirely different boat than the C380. The head seems to have the same amount of floor space even though the 385 includes an enclosed shower. See the latest Sailing cruiser boats from the Catalina Yachts shipyard. My friend's complaints about the C380 had to do with its seakeeping ability. A significant change is the aft “queen” bed configuration. Find Catalina 390 boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. Catalina 400 National Association About the CATALINA 380 sailboat The separate head/shower is nice too, but probably not a real deal breaker for me. (draft: 4.83'/1.47m) Disp. I don't know about the weight of the 380, but 36 Mark IIs are significantly heavier than the design weight. 380 has a separate bronze strut for support of the prop-shaft while the 387 has a molded in skeg which covers the shaft completely. I live in the San Diego, CA area, and most of my sailing would be centered around local coastal cruising and Channel Islands, with hopefully lots of time spent at Catalina Island. Call 800/959-7245 and ask for a quote. Either way, it seems to me more likely to be a problem in a marina than on the hook. The aft bunk is really sweet! The Wing keel version is offered with a short keel fitted with large winglets. As to weight, make sure you're not comparing apples and oranges. A new backstay system creates an impressive cockpit for the avid sailor, and Catalina’s unique SecureSocket™ chain plates mast support system affords superior load resolution. I takes a little more to get you going, but is probably a little more stable when it gets ugly, or at anchor in an unprotected area or less than calm conditions. Early C387s used Charleston then changed to Seldon. Another consideration is Westerbeke versus Yanmar, which is actually a 380 vs. 380 consideration, since it occurred sometime during the 2000 model year. The forward cabin has more floor space, but the bed seems smaller and there is no hanging locker in the cabin. That is about the same as the 38. Catalina 380 Brochure 1. This Catalina 387 debuted in 2003 as the updated and enhanced version of the very popular Catalina 380 which had been in production over a successful eight year run since 1996. Catalina has impeccable reputation for producing perfect coastal cruisers in the yachting community. Three different cranes have all reported that weight, so pretty sure it's accurate. ... with hopefully lots of time spent at Catalina Island. The problem he has is that at anchor, he gets a very annoying slapping sound from the water against the hull. The Catalina 387 is a satisfying coastal cruiser from a company that pays attention to detail. Catalina 387 Sailboat has been uniquely rigged for cruising. I'm still going back and forth on this one, but i agree with what you say. Catalina 380 & 387 Mains'ls Can't find the Mains'l you need? The term 'big-hipped' applies to older S&S Catalina 38s, an aspect that is very noticeable when you have a close look at one. Catalina 380 sailboat / sailing yacht: Catalina, used boat, GRP/polyester length x beam: 11.75 m x 3.76 m, 11.75 x 3.76 m built: 1998, cabins: 2 engine: Westerbeke, 40 hp (29 kW), diesel € 79,000 location: Netherlands, Lelystad 1998 company: De Vaart Yachting Catalina 387. If you email me I can give you his contact information so you can talk to him yourself.]. the genoa winches were downsized from #54 to #48. #Z2365. New Bern, North Carolina, United States. The earlier 380s are equipped with a smaller genoa furler. The 387 has some, needs more. This holds the ply up with all the bedding on it when I want to get into the forward locker (We are a Mk I) where we keep the sails and spare anchor, etc. Its clearly a hull design of the IOR era and was intially designed as a racer. The waste tank that was mounted under the bench seat was moved to what is a wet hanging locker on the 380. I would have to guess i would be happy with either boat, but just having trouble making the decision. $189.00. The term doesn't refer to the beam of the hull, but to its shape...which is like this... ( ). Updated version of CATALINA 380. We have designs for every standard mains'l including full batten mains and furling mains for every Catalina model. Ballast: 7300 lbs./3311 kgs. Pacific Beach, CA. The 390 hull, deck, and rig is in fact identical to the C380 with the only change being a two cabin layout aft. A little more beamy than the C36, perhaps. Learn how your comment data is processed. I am in the market for a boat, and am on the fence between these two. I know that the older 38s were "big hipped", but do you think that is the same of the newer boats? Well that day has come, but now i have a new wrinkle. A 3 burner propane stove, w/oven, micro, stainless refrigerator w/freezer, plenty of storage for long voyage provisioning. Redesigned and improved the refrigerator door. Our boat consistently weighs over 20,000 lbs when pulled for storage every year. I am in the market for a boat, and am on the fence between these two. iNautia. The S&S designed C38 has prominent tumblehome (inward curvature towards the hull/deck joint). Very noticeable. She has all the creature comforts you might want. US$159,900 * 38 ft / 2006. The crawling over your spouse thing is rarely a big problem since we both are of an age where, well, you get the idea. Catalina 380 Brochure 2. I am a C34 owner who is considering a move up to a bigger boat. Hard to find a 380 for anywhere near the kind of money 36 Mark IIs sell for from what I can see. The 390 hull, deck, and rig is in fact identical to the C380 with the only change being a two cabin layout aft. From canvas and cushions to rigging and hardware by top suppliers like Lewmar, Schaefer, Gray, Ronstan, and more. With really strong current or confused seas, you might have waves hitting the back of the boat while on the hook but its not the normal condition. New Bern, North Carolina, United States. Anyone Have thier boat out for winter and willing to measure something? Catalina 387. 2004 C36 MKII # 2169 "Dash" Catalina Direct, publishers of the Catalina 22 and Catalina 25 Owner's Handbooks and the largest supplier of parts and Lewmar winches for Catalina Yachts in the country. All new designs from Catalina Yachts can trace their pedigrees back to the first boats Frank Butler built in California just as fiberglass-boat building was taking off. Too low to be of much use, other than storage. Altered the number and configuration of side fixed and opening ports. [QUOTE=pierview;11890]Aside from the other comments about weight and rigging, my sailing friend has an older C38 and he has a small but very annoying problem. I believe that they only have about 5 inches more in the beam over the 36. Catalina Yachts Store was established in 2002 with the vision of providing quality custom apparel and great customer service. I don't know about the weight of the 380, but 36 Mark IIs are significantly heavier than the design weight. She is built since 2012 by Catalina Yachts (United States). On the hook the bow is usually into the wind and waves. The 387 is heavyish at 8618kg (19,000lb) with the fin keel (which draws 2.18m), or 8845kg for the fin keeler drawing 1.47m. Our search technology instantly finds Catalina 380 for sale from our database of thousands of luxury and exotic yachts. Re: Catalina 387, 400 or 42 Purchase old PDQ 36 or Privilege 37 catamarans that offers me a separate shower at a price I can afford. The newest, the Catalina 375, is one of them. Even room for the cats. Visit the Catalina 36 Class Association website. The 380 does have a much nicer aft cabin, though I've only seen it in pictures. Catalina 387 introduced in Jan 2003 and stopped production in 2009 after 151 C387's were built. Copyright © 2021, Catalina 36/375 International Association, Catalina 36/375 International Association. The inboard shroud base allows for narrow sheeting angles and the ability to carry large Genoas. I like the salon layout of the 36 better. Keep updated on whats happening in the world of the Catalina 380/387/390 class. FWIW, I hinged the V berth ply lid across the forward edge, and made up a line from the aft edge with a hook that clips on an eye in front of the forward hatch. Catalina eliminated the vented sealed liner on at least one of the aft swim platform 387 lockers.-One is sealed, one is open to the lazarette. Wing keel depth changed a number of times in the 380 line and then to 4’10” in 387 though some have reported it is actually deeper than that when the boat is loaded. I know he has tried rigging stuff to hang under the stern from port to starboard to try to "break" the wavelets before they hit the bottom, but so far to my knowledge he has not been successful. She was Cruising World's Boat of the Year in 1996. As to hull slap, I'd say the S&S C38 is probably the least likely Catalina to experience that, but most other Catalina designs (and those of their competitors) could be under certain conditions. The MKI's are probably slightly less prone to it that the wider sterned MKII's. Catalina Yachts Store was established in 2002 with the vision of providing quality custom apparel and great customer service. Again, not that big of a deal. US$139,900 * 38 ft / 2004. Specifications. Please also consider joining the official Catalina 380 International Association at Catalina380… This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Beaufort Yacht Sales. Divided anchor locker and added an additional roller. They both are good boats though. Tom chose the wing keel version, because he plans to do some gunkholing (American for poking around shallow waterways) so at the bottom of this 387’s keel is Catalina’s delta-shaped, which has a wingspan of about a metre. . The 380 didn’t have much sound insulation inside the engine covers. Oh yeah! JamesEdition makes it easy to find Catalina 380 yachts you're looking for, we feature Catalina 380 for sale by dealerships around the world. On another front, early C387s had a baby stay. Changed the configuration of the 387 v-berth, and eliminated the forward wash basin. Offering the best selection of Catalina boats to choose from. Catalina 387 boat. Additional Reef Point For Large Boats . To me, with the uneducated eye, the big differences are the heavier displacement, the separate head/shower combo, and the massive aft berth arrangement. Other designs have the bottom sweeping up just a bit at the stern. Other folks on here have reported similar results. Do you know what the basic difference in the rigging is? I saw a 2000 C380 recently, and i may have a new love now. 2006. Perhaps others could comment on this or add to it. There are a few more differences besides the extra length, and beam. Now, I am not familiar with the names of the various designs Catalina came out with, but if you look closely, one of the designs is vey low at the stern to the water. Marblehead, Massachusetts, United States. C36MKII versus C380/387 . Aside from the other comments about weight and rigging, my sailing friend has an older C38 and he has a small but very annoying problem. The Catalina 385 is a 34’10” (10.6m) cruising sailboat designed by Gerry Douglas (United States). His classic 38 is a wonderful sailer, he says, but the 380 he had experience with on a delivery did not measure up. There is also ample storage in the aft berth too. How do you improve on a design that has Eliminated the storage above the power panel at the Nav station by increasing the panel size for upgrades. [Hearsay, and I probably ought not repeat it: I have heard very ungood things about the sailing qualities of the C380, from a (knowledgeable) owner of a classic Sparks & Stephens big hipped Catalina 38. This did give rise to a mod to fix questionable interior attachment of stay & resulting leaks.- The turnover was thought to be in around hull 60?. I know a lot about the differences between the Mark I and the Mark II versions of the C34 but the differences between the C380 and the C387 seem more subtle to me. That's empty of everything except fuel, the mast and rigging are off the boat. Our boat consistently weighs over 20,000 lbs when pulled for storage every year. I am a tad over 6', my wife a tad over 5', she sleeps furthest aft and we both have plenty of room in both directions. Compare prices on Catalina 380, read specifications and descriptions and see Catalina 380 images from our global listings. Agreed, but only sleeping athwartships! We even take all the upholstery home. The 387 has a bit more head … But would we prefer the aft cabin on a 380? Some like the additional room in the 387. It also has a 30 gallon holding tank and to inland sailors that is a weak point for the 36, 18 gallons keeps you going for pump outs every 6-7 days at best. ... Catalina 380/387/390 Canvas & Covers Electrical Engine Hatches & Ports Hull & Deck Interior Lifelines & Stanchions Rigging Sails Catalina 400 Canvas & Covers Electrical THe 36 has a very limited use aft cabin. The 387 only has the equivalent of the “standard” mast height. Locating primary diesel fuel filter in 1994 Catalina MKii. Sailboats Northeast. This group is for the owners and those interested in Catalina 380 series sailboats (Catalina 380, 390, 385 and 387). Winged keel model also available. The 380 has standard and tall-mast versions?? Too low to be of much use, other than storage. My friend had a 36 in the mid '80's that i was in love with. Changed the cabinetry under the galley sink. C-380 Std Rig Full Batten Main . We find it quite roomy - for sleeping....But then again we found the aft cabin in our 28 to be fine as well, so this one is by contrast quite spacious. Keep updated on whats happening in the world of the Catalina 36 class. Catalina eliminated the T-shaped shaped cockpit on the 387. That way the bed stays made up. Catalina 387 . base, FOB Woodland Hills, CA). This configuration provides an interesting draft / low center of gravity / upwind performance trade-off. Mast on C380s from z-spar until later switch to Charleston. Another burner on the stove, which is no big deal. Contact. This Catalina 380 is one of the more popular 38 footers. This would probably work good for me too, since i would rarely have sleep over guests. Using Catalina/Morgan’s quick and sturdy C381 hull as the basis for their new beamier design, the 387 offers a larger aft cabin floor plan, more main cabin ports and hatches, and a longer cockpit for outdoor entertainment. I am not sure how this works, but i imagine that the table is involved and cushions are placed on top, and it makes in to a pretty good sized bed. Well, that's about all i know about the major differences. 380 has a separate bronze strut for support of the prop-shaft while the 387 has a molded in skeg which covers the shaft completely. $203,717 Seller Beaufort Yacht Sales 40. [quote=richie30;11932]THe 36 has a very limited use aft cabin. The Morgan 381 (the first Gerry Douglas designed Morgan introduced in 1993) evolved into the Catalina 380, 387, and 390. Yes, definitely athwartships. A shower would be great, as would a bit of extra room and sink in the V Berth. It was lowered, giving more vertical space Also, the bed has optional orientation: either fore/aft or athrwartship. Don't compare this number with a weight from a brochure. This is probably a real selling feature for couples, as it eliminates having to climb over someone else in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. I will be singlehanding 99% of the time, and i imagine the 38 will probably be just as manageable as the 36. Our goal at Catalina Yachts Store is to provide the best customer service to our Catalina family members. Bill Ahillen, Commodore Kathy II, C-380 # 5 bahillen@comcast.net Tom Brantigan, Webmaster Toccata in Sea, C-387 #96 Jim Norman. The boat's calculated balance between accommodations, performance, and price could have wide appeal. I image i would be happy with either. Vanity up front, which might be nice if you had multiple people staying on the boat. The lower backstay legs were move farther inboard so the stern perch seats are easier to access. Changed the configuration and number of bilge access boards. Other than cost and age, are there important distinctions I should keep in mind when comparing the two boats? I had no idea a 36 would weigh in at 20K pounds. Another member of this site said that they sleep in the salon area on the couch area. In coming up with a successor to the legendary Catalina 36, Catalina s long-time in-house designer, Gerry Douglas, had his work cut out for him. Catalina changed aspects of the orginal rig (shortened boom and maybe moved the mast) to tame the squirrliness that many IOR designs displayed and the C38 is recognized as a good sailing boat as a result of those changes. Information and features of Catalina 387. Some aft cabin storage was lost on the C387. Perhaps others could comment on this or add to it.[/QUOTE]. Today's C380s are normal everyday shape as you might expect for a modern production boat. Used late model 36s are plentiful in CA, but there are no 38s. – In the 387, the table lowers and becomes a bench. The aft cabin is very large but not useful if this keeps you awake all night. Also, with the wider sterned boats the owners cabin is more likely to be the aft cabin where its more likely to be annoying. Thanks for the input. 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